Heng Yun Shr felt that the phrase was a bit arrogant. So one day when Shr Fu said, "Do you have any suggestions?" she told him, "Well, I didn't want to tell you, but I don't think you should say, 'They came here because of ME!''' And he said, "Oh, you think that was a bit arrogant, right?" And she said, "Yeah!" and he said, "What do you think I should say?" She said, "I think you should say that they came here because of the Dharma!" And Shr Fu said, "There is Dharma all over the world; why don't you go somewhere else?"

Heng Yun Shr summed up by talking about our last couple of days here and the past six years where we have held Shr Fu in high regard and remember him. When we come to this time of the year, it is extremely moving for all of us, first of all, to be able to come back, and secondly, to see that everybody else has, too. And she was reminded then of that very well-known Dharma Master who, only shortly after he passed, wasn't even remembered in the place where he had taught. So she feels that it is a very good sign that everyone is remembering, and by doing so, we will be able to carry on Shr Fu's tradition for long time.

Loni Baur: Thank you for the question. I would say that Heng Chih Shr is a very agreeable person, and it wasn't exactly her charm that got me here today. But as far as the music goes, I had a background in music. I spent most of my waking hours translating sutras and at some point when I would be translating a sutra into English, listening to Shr Fu's voice on the headphone ... something he would say or something I would translate... I would start to hear music behind him. So I would sit down and write the lyrics out and then get the music together. On several occasions, I woke up in the morning and had the entire song and the music already written before I woke, so all I had to do is to get up and write it down. One thing I want to say though. I heard Sarah's question about the difficulty of keeping on when Shr Fu is not here in physical form. In the Diarrond Sutra which I referred Sarah to, again, Shakyamuni Buddha talked about this quite pointedly because his disciples were attached to him... to his personality... and he tells them, "If you look for me in my physical form or if you look for me in the sound of my voice, you are not going to find me. That's not where I am." In my knowing of Shr Fu, he had a terrific personality. He had a wonderful sense of humor. He was extremely kind, but he went beyond his ego and went beyond his personality. Shr Fu had a true understanding of what it is really important and those things are pretty basic. They involve treating other people the way you want yourselves treated, understanding that we are not separate. We have egos, we have our own personal agenda, but this is where we get into trouble... pursuing that. With the Buddhadharma, we train ourselves so that we are able to recognize the Buddha-nature in everyone, and we are in accord with that. That is what Shr Fu mastered, completely. That's why we disciples were drawn to him. That is what he tried to teach by being kind to us, by instructing us, by giving every waking moment and all his energy to that task and also by sometimes yelling at us and scolding us. But we recognized that that was also for our benefit. I said there were two things: one was recognizing the Buddha-nature in everyone, and I can't even remember what the second one was. So, probably, it wasn't that important.