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上人：發菩提心，什麼叫發菩提心，知道不知道？什麼是菩提心？你們說說看。我現在問這個問題，什麼叫菩提心？你們啞口無言。你們說菩提心像什麼似的？沒有人知道？（上人對底下的弟子講：我要問你姊姊了，什麼叫菩提心？……翻譯成英文給他聽，你聽得懂嗎他講？）不要等著我叫，你們看大家來講，這個發菩提心文，什麼叫菩提心？（有人以廣東話回答。）不是因緣，什麼叫菩提心？
弟子：菩提心就是慈悲心：想成佛首先就要發菩提心。
上人：這是這個方果智說的。你們各位有什麼講法沒有？
弟子：菩提心就是無分別心。
上人：像什麼？
弟子：不像什麼。
上人：你們開始聽《勸發菩提心文》慧僧老法師沒有給你們講一講什麼叫菩提心？你們都忘了嗎？果舟會寫文章，這個《勸發菩提心》這個菩提心這個文章，怎麼樣寫？
弟子：我想菩提心是，那個人一定要得到菩提，是一個責任，一個intent；是一個責任，你一定要做，一定要成佛，想絕對。
上人：成佛幹什麼？
弟子：成佛不是幹什麼，是沒有執著，沒有我相，像六祖。六祖大師到弘忍大師的地方請法，弘忍大師說：「你為什麼到我這兒來？你要什麼？」六祖大師說：「我不要什麼；我只要成佛，我不要其他的事情。」我想這是菩提的心。
上人：我方才問你們，這個菩提心像個什麼？你們說什麼也不像，沒有分別心就是菩提心。那為什麼又叫做菩提心？不叫沒有分別心呢？為什麼又叫菩提心？那可以說《勸發沒有分別心》。果衡跟溫以敬答覆我這個問題。
弟子：弟子的看法，我們要把它分為菩提心，那是不得已，對一些執迷不悟的人而說。如果我們真正站在菩提心這個名稱的立場來講它，它實在是不可以分別的。因為如果一起分別呢，那就是妄，那就不是菩提了。菩提也就是覺悟，因為六祖大師講過一句：「起心即是妄。」我們一起心就是妄了，那我們還執著它什麼名稱，那根本就不是菩提，我是按著這個看法來講。
翻譯人：恆空法師講，如果師父開始問我們分別心、不分別心是什麼？我們都會說菩提心是根本沒有分別的，跟無分別心是差不多一樣的。……
上人：蕭居士！蕭果造，你說什麼叫菩提心？
蕭居士：……菩提就是覺道；覺道就是大道；大道就是要無求，所謂三藐三菩提。三藐三菩提不過是菩提的簡稱，即是叫我們發大心，發全部的心，這就是所謂菩提心。就是要我們廣度眾生，度一切的人，就是要發大心，要發廣度眾生的心，成佛的心，這就是菩提心。
上人：不錯！蕭居士講的是有一點道理。問什麼叫菩提心？這不是講禪宗的，或者是有有無無的--問有以無對；問無以有對；問是以非對；問非以是對：不是那個三十六對。這個菩提心，我告訴你們，我有一個很簡單很淺顯的看法。
你沒有發菩提心，就像麵沒有發似的；你發菩提心了，就像放上一點麵種子了，那個麵就會發起來；發起，它就大了。我問你們各位菩提心像什麼？本來它是無形無相的，它只是一個覺道。覺，覺者覺悟也，就是明白，明白這個道了。明白道，不是單明白就可以了，還要修行，要修這個道，修這個覺悟的道。那麼說是它無形，也可以用有形的來比方一下。
用什麼呢？就用寶塔。不論多少層的塔，都是從地上修起來的。這個地，就是我們人這個心地。以我們心地去造個寶塔，這個寶塔是從地上造起來，它一層比一層高，一層比一層高，一層比一層高。這個菩提心也就是節節高，越發越高，越發越大。本來是很小來著，最初只是一點點，以後它就膨脹發大，就成佛了。這是我這一個很粗淺的看法。我覺得菩提心就像造寶塔似的，你發大菩提心呢，就像造一個大寶塔似的，那是一樣的道理。它越發越高，越發越大，那麼這是舉出這一個例子，來形容這個菩提心，並不是說菩提心就是寶塔。也可以說你發菩提心，也就是在那兒造寶塔呢，這是我對於菩提心的看法。那個就是菩提心。
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Venerable Master: Does anybody know what is meant by "bringing forth the odhi resolve?" What is the Bodhi resolve? Can anyone explain it? I'm asking you what the Bodhi resolve is and you are all speechless. What does the Bodhi mind look like? No one knows! [The Master tells one of the disciples: I'm going to ask your sister, "What is the Bodhi resolve?" Translate that for her. Do you understand what he said] Don't wait for me to call you; let's see how everyone answers. What is the Bodhi resolve? [Someone answers in Cantonese.] It's not "cause and condition." What is the Bodhi mind?
Disciple: The Bodhi mind is having compassion. If you want to become a Buddha, you first have to bring forth the mind for Bodhi.
Venerable Master: That's Fang Guo Zhi's answer. Does anyone else have another opinion?
Disciple: The Bodhi mind is the mind without discrimination.
Venerable Master: What does it look like?
Disciple: It doesn't look like anything.
Venerable Master: When you first listen to the "Essay of Exhortation to Bring Forth the Bodhi Resolve," did Dharma Master Hui Seng explain what the Bodhi resolve is? Did all of you forget it? Guo Zhou knows how to write essays. What does the essay on the "Exhortation to Bring Forth the Bodhi Resolve" say?
Disciple: I think the Bodhi resolve is a decisive resolve to attain Bodhi. It's a responsibility, an intent. You have to take action; you have to become a Buddha. I think that it is the ultimate resolve.
Venerable Master: What do you do after you become a Buddha?
Disciple: You don't do anything after becoming a Buddha. You simply are free from attachments and ego, like the Sixth Patriarch. When the Sixth Patriarch requested Dharma from Great Master Hong Ren, the Great Master inquired, "Why did you come here? What do you want?" The Sixth Patriarch replied, "I want nothing, I just want to become a Buddha, that's all." I think that's the Bodhi resolve.
Venerable Master: I asked you what the Bodhi mind looks like and you said it doesn't look like anything. You said the Bodhi resolve means being free from discrimination. Then why is it called the Bodhi mind instead of the mind without discrimination? Can we call this essay the "Exhortation to Bring Forth the Mind Without Discrimination?" Guo Heng and Wen Yi-Jing should answer my question.
Disciple: In my opinion, we are forced to distinguish it as the "Bodhi resolve" for people who cling to wrong beliefs. But there is no way to truly explain the term "Bodhi resolve." Once we try to discriminate what it is, our definition will be false and not Bodhi. Bodhi is enlightenment. Since the Sixth Patriarch said that, "It's false as soon as we have a thought," why are we attached to this term? That is not Bodhi. This is how I look at it.
Translator: Dharma Master Heng Kung said that in the beginning, if the Venerable Master asked what is the discriminating mind and the mind without discrimination, we would say that the Bodhi mind is fundamentally without discrimination. It's basically the same as the mind of no discrimination.
Venerable Master: Upasaka Xiao! Xiao Guo Zao, what is the Bodhi resolve?
Upasaka Xiao:... "Bodhi" is the enlightened path; the enlightened path is the great path. The great path means not seeking anything, or samyaksambodhi. Samyaksambodhi is the short form of Bodhi, which tells us to bring forth a great resolve, a complete resolve. That is the Bodhi resolve. We need to make a resolve to save all beings and to become a Buddha. That is the Bodhi resolve.
Venerable Master: Correct! What Upasaka Xiao said had some principles in it. I was asking what the Bodhi resolve is. I'm not talking about the Chan School or existence and nonexistence— where if asked about existence one, answers with nonexistence, and if asked about nonexistence, one answers with existence; if asked about wrong, one answers with right, and when asked about right, one answers with wrong. I'm not asking about the thirty-six pairs of opposites. I have a simple and clear way to explain the Bodhi resolve. Let me tell you.
If you don't bring forth the Bodhi resolve, it's like a dough without yeast. When you bring forth the Bodhi resolve, it is like adding yeast to the dough so that it rises and grows bigger. I asked you what the Bodhi mind looks like. Well, originally it has no form or appearance. It is only an enlightened path. To be enlightened means one understands the Way. Not only does one understand it, one must cultivate the enlightened path. Therefore, the Bodhi resolve is formless. However, we also can use something that has form as a metaphor.
What do we use as an analogy? A jeweled pagoda. No matter how many stories a jeweled pagoda has, it must be built from the ground up. The ground represents a person's mind-ground. When we start to build a jeweled pagoda on our mind-ground, building one layer upon another, the pagoda will get higher and higher. The Bodhi resolve also grows in stages. The more you bring it forth, the higher and bigger it becomes. In the beginning, it's very tiny, but later it expands until one realizes Buddhahood. This is my simple explanation. I think bringing forth the Bodhi resolve is like building a jeweled pagoda. If your Bodhi resolve is big, you build a big pagoda. The principle is the same. The more you bring forth the resolve, the higher and larger it becomes. This is only an analogy for the Bodhi mind. The Bodhi resolve is not actually a jeweled pagoda. Bringing forth the Bodhi resolve is like building a pagoda. That is my view of the Bodhi resolve.
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